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  Email from JW relative/elder

  by Lynnie in

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  as much as i enjoy you and pete's company, you also know our understanding of how much we want you to be reunited with jehovah and his people.. .

  we did not set the standards for what jehovah says about our associations with those who choose to not serve him.

  so we will always be there for you and pete, but it is in your hands as to how we can enjoy your friendship.. .

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  joey jojo

  JW's ability to reason and think critically has never been great.

  It has gotten worse because of the jw org website.

  Years ago, I used to be impressed by older brothers that could pull their bible out at the door of a householder and recall, look up and explain how the gentile times are calculated. Obviously, now I realise it is BS, but it was impressive at the time.

  Now, they hide behind jworg. If you have a question, they send a link to an article on jworg that may or may not answer your questions. As far as they are concerned, they have done their job.

  If you don't agree, then they are not expected to spend any more time helping you, which means, they don't think about it anymore themselves.

  Their deeply held, personal convictions are whatever jworg says this week.

  Friendship with them is based on you having the same beliefs. This is such an arrogant basis for a friendship.

  They are essentially saying, we (i) are always right about everything, therefore if you don't agree, we can't be friends and I can't talk to you. Also, it's all your fault.
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  What Are Your Predictions for 2020 and Beyond?

  by The Bethelite in

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  2020 the society will continue to have financial problems with massive pay outs because of their lack of protecting their young people from a religion that harbors thousands of pedophiles.

  thus this and other religions that has an 1800's mentality will continue to lose their young people.

  with the religion's lies easily found on the internet the smart ones will continue to leave in droves.

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  joey jojo

  Speaking to several dubs recently and they could not even bring themselves to admit there has been a change in doctrine.

  These are people in their late 40's early 50 's, that know exactly what happened but are whitewashing their own memories.

  It's absolutely astounding to hear old friends lie to your face and pretend old information just doesn't matter.

  So my prediction is that the gb will continue winding up the screws of control over the flock, causing them to be totally dependant and less capable of rational thought than now, if that's possible.

  It won't matter what the gb says or does, the dubs will be trained to gulp it down and smile afterwards.
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?

  by 30LPP in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello everyone.. first of all, i would like to say hello to all of you.i am not a jehovah's witness but i have been a child with "truth" because of my family.

  i am interested in the subject of this sect in the hope that i will be able to wake up the rest of my family.i would also like to share with you another interesting book of polish author włodzimierz bednarski, which was released in 2019, quite recently, and which is a small guidebook for the medical community and criticism of the watchtower society’s teachings.the book in pdf format is available for download at: .

  are jehovah’s witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?known books of this author are also:armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'?year 1925 and millions now living will never die!ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnessesthis book will probably be released later at:https://wtsarchive.com/pubs/3rd-party-publicationsi encourage you to read the above materials, because they are really worth it.. i wish everyone perseverance and health..

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  joey jojo

  Fink,

  The shepherd book says that if the person shows repentance then they will receive what amounts to public reproof.

  They will lose privileges and presumably position but they aren't automatically cast out of the org.
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  Are Jehovah’s Witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?

  by 30LPP in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello everyone.. first of all, i would like to say hello to all of you.i am not a jehovah's witness but i have been a child with "truth" because of my family.

  i am interested in the subject of this sect in the hope that i will be able to wake up the rest of my family.i would also like to share with you another interesting book of polish author włodzimierz bednarski, which was released in 2019, quite recently, and which is a small guidebook for the medical community and criticism of the watchtower society’s teachings.the book in pdf format is available for download at: .

  are jehovah’s witnesses competent to resolve the issue of blood transfusion?known books of this author are also:armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'?year 1925 and millions now living will never die!ever-changing teachings of jehovah's witnessesthis book will probably be released later at:https://wtsarchive.com/pubs/3rd-party-publicationsi encourage you to read the above materials, because they are really worth it.. i wish everyone perseverance and health..

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  joey jojo

  I agree with the principle of life being sacred and therefore the use of blood, donated from a still living person, used to save someone's life is surely a conscience issue.

  Watching John Cedars on YouTube the other night dissecting the shepherd book was also interesting concerning blood transfusions.

  If you receive a transfusion and are repentant, then it seems you are 'all good', you will probably just be reproved.

  This raises another question; in WT land, why is accepting a blood transfusion treated differently compared to the other sins listed in the OT? If you are unrepentant, you are disassociated instead of being disfellowshipped.
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  Science and Watchtower's astounding ignorance

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well these goof balls at jwbroadcast apparently think the study of pure science means not having any "practical application".

  oi vey.

  sanderson may speak russian but he is so ill educated he appears to think that researching a subject and formulating a theory about it means that's the end of it - in other words he's saying it has no practical use.

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  joey jojo

  The start of the video mentions Gilead graduates have spent months studying the bible in depth.

  Has anyone on the forum been to Gilead or have any idea what this 'in depth' study consists of?
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  venting: My wife is the most dangerous kind of JW

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i need to vent again here.

  because i have no one else to talk with and no one who really understands except for the people here.

  my wife is the most dangerous kind of jw.

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  joey jojo

  Good point Ding
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  Bible writers must of loved the number 3

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  here are some examples where bible writers used the #, 3!

  were these stories ever true, or were they just fabrications and laziness on the writer's part where it just made sense to use the #, 3?.

  12-year-old jesus stays in jerusalem, joseph, and mary find him 3 days later.

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  joey jojo

  At the time of the the solstice, when the shortest day and longest night occur, ancient observers noticed that the sun's position at sunrise was pretty much the same for about a 3 day period. In the Northern hemisphere, that occurs around December 22nd.

  It was as if time was standing still in a sense. The deepest sleep before life renewed again.

  Echoes of this astronomical event occur in quite a few myths.
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  Greta Thunberg...what’s your view of her?

  by minimus in

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  she certainly is passionate about climate change.

  🤔.

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  joey jojo

  Axiom, you make a good argument.

  I think this girl is just a girl that is speaking her mind about something she has genuine feelings abut.

  If the most powerful man in the world makes it his business to tweet about a 16 yr old girl, then maybe she is on to something.
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  Living in the last of the last days - A new prophecy

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  although not a new concept by the watchtower, particularly in public talks and at assemblies, they have now put this prophecy in writing.watchtower oct 2019 page 8 -13 study no.40 titled -keep busy during the last of "the last days".

  the first paragraph asks '1.

  what convinces us that we are living in “the last days”?

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  joey jojo

  Anyone who was a JW in1995 actually witnessed the failure of a prophecy and the eventual baffling evolution of that belief.

  Many of those same people are still JW's and going stronger than ever, more convinced of their conviction and faith in the GB.
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  Ewart Chitty

  by NoAbuse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ewart chitty was appointed as secretary-treasurer , which position he held until his appointment to the governing body in november 1974.. when in brooklyn, chitty seems to have preferred younger men as roommates.

  the actual charge brought to the gb against chitty was made by a former roommate and involved some sort of inappropriate conduct.

  the gb concluded that chitty had homosexual tendencies, and asked him to resign.. a rare photo of chitty in happier days.

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  joey jojo

  Not sure if that's a cigarette, looks like the shadow on the bottom of his jacket to me. 🤔